https://podcasts.apple.com/sg/podcast/paper-and-pain/id1683076703

Still not abandoning the idea of going live with @stevewang on a design-related topic. 

What would you like to hear/learn more about?

We are running our podcast here: https://podcasts.apple.com/sg/podcast/paper-and-pain/id1683076703

I’m interested in people’s design processes & how they’re different when you’re approaching it from a product / strategy perspective vs “just visual design” (cause sometimes that’s what people want 🤷🏻‍♀️). Also: How do you do research when there’s no budget for research?

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