Design community, with AI generating more art (text, image, audio, video) what are your honest thoughts on the ethics (care / don’t care)? Models often train on others’ work without compensation. Should companies pay creators if their material was used for generating content?

+, I'm curious after seeing companies specializing on it, and trying to understand if they have future. Make sense if data is public, but what do you think about protected data, like NYT, where people pay to get access to content?

Taking a step back - and related to my first comment - I find it helpful to think of AI systems relative to humans. So, AIs training on data owned by others is OK to me since that’s what humans do.

For data behind a paywall, if you agree with me above, assuming the AI company pays for it, then that’s fine if they train on that too. If I read an NYT article and told you about it, no one would care.

Yeah, but that's a thing they don't pay for it. And even if you'll read an article and tell other people, we cannot "regenerate" similar content in a journalist style (or it's takes too much effort), but ai can make it immediately.

this is a bit different don’t you think? the AI being trained is robotic and has 0 emotional interpretation. when a human produces something and shares it, other humans will interpret it differently and adopt what speaks to them. AI just collects patterns and spits it back out.

You could say humans just collect patterns and spit things back out too. I’m not sure how much difference there is except AI might be better since it can “know more”

It’s very different. There’s several factors that impact a humans interpretation, skill level and appreciation. AI models don’t “appreciate”. Humans can make proper distinction