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Marat
Gregory Cotton
Replying to @outofelement

i feel like we’ve been ‘a few months away’ from ai replacing all devs and designers for like a year now

Marat
Replying to @cotton

Check developer threads on Reddit, Levels or HN, for example. Even many senior engineers with years of experience have found the market to be tough.

Jamie Sigadel
Replying to @outofelement @cotton

The tough job market isn't *just* because of AI.. For example, companies know they can get away with annual layoffs now. It's not a huge surprise that developers are on the chopping block along with everyone else. They're usually the most expensive people 🤷🏻‍♀️

Marat
Replying to @jsiggy @cotton

Didn't say it was the only factor but it's a really big factor. You wouldn't fire people you need. Even if they're expensive. The truth is that even things like Copilot have 10x developer productivity. This is according to my developer friends themselves.

Marat
Replying to @jsiggy @cotton

My point was that o3 is a whole new level of AI. With Copilot (which has already 10x'ed dev productivity) you still need to really know what you're doing. o3 will likely allow anyone who has a product idea create a product. No years of tech expertise necessary.

Gregory Cotton
Replying to @outofelement @jsiggy

workers as in devs, in the above post^ this is from the perspective i have developed working on ai and automation tools in an engineering/tech lead role day to day, fwiw. these are tools that can disrupt no doubt, but the impact they currently have is often overstated imo.

Marat
Replying to @cotton @jsiggy

Currently, yes. As I said, Copilot helps an engineer be much more productive but you still need to have engineering skills and experience. o3 sounds like a completely different beast. We'll know more soon.

Marat
Replying to @cotton @jsiggy

We will see. I don't think either of us know enough about it since it just came out in closed beta. If it can code at the level they say it'll be able to do everything senior engineers do, including system design.