i feel like we’ve been ‘a few months away’ from ai replacing all devs and designers for like a year now
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Check developer threads on Reddit, Levels or HN, for example. Even many senior engineers with years of experience have found the market to be tough.
The tough job market isn't *just* because of AI.. For example, companies know they can get away with annual layoffs now. It's not a huge surprise that developers are on the chopping block along with everyone else. They're usually the most expensive people 🤷🏻♀️
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I mean.. ok? What we were saying before still stands.. Especially when Salesforce has been laying people off for years. Their big thing at one point was NFTs. I don't think you understood what we were saying
Besides that.. I don't know why you're being so defensive on the behalf of big tech companies that do what they want regardless and don't need anyone defending them. Whatever their justification is, less tech jobs is.. not a good thing?
Now I don't think you're understanding what I'm saying. I'm not defending big tech. That's how you're taking it. I'm looking at trends. I don't have emotional attachment to either side like you seem to.
The only thing I'm saying is that it's very obvious to anyone who understands tech that AI has already made a lot of engineers redundant (average to below average for now) and it's improving extremely quickly. That's really all I'm saying. Not defending anyone.
You are consistently wildly disrespectful and condescending. I don’t know why you choose to behave this way, but I would reflect on that.
Unlike most people on social media I actually go out of my way to state my opinions in the most neutral way possible without attacking anyone personally, even when I disagree, so the fact you think the opposite says more about how you choose to perceive what you read.
So it's you who needs to seek the help of a mental health professional after self reflection. I'm fine, thank you. If you still think you're right why don't you point to a single example of your claims. Or rather multiple ones since you claim I do what you said consistently.
Didn't say it was the only factor but it's a really big factor. You wouldn't fire people you need. Even if they're expensive. The truth is that even things like Copilot have 10x developer productivity. This is according to my developer friends themselves.
My point was that o3 is a whole new level of AI. With Copilot (which has already 10x'ed dev productivity) you still need to really know what you're doing. o3 will likely allow anyone who has a product idea create a product. No years of tech expertise necessary.
i would agree it makes just starting to create a product more accessible but this is different than it’s ability to outright replace workers for a big tech company, for example.
workers as in devs, in the above post^ this is from the perspective i have developed working on ai and automation tools in an engineering/tech lead role day to day, fwiw. these are tools that can disrupt no doubt, but the impact they currently have is often overstated imo.
Currently, yes. As I said, Copilot helps an engineer be much more productive but you still need to have engineering skills and experience. o3 sounds like a completely different beast. We'll know more soon.
my experience and perspective wrt tech industry is that there was genuinely a lot of excess for a while (when i entered uni the idea of graduating into a cushy tech job was almost a given) and as times have gotten tougher this excess has dried up.
there’s still a lot of tech jobs i see, but the bar to entry is higher and the competition is much fiercer. compared to the state of hiring in tech industries not even a decade ago i think this amplifies people’s perspective of how poor things are.
The free money well has dried up and people are scrambling for new ideas.. So they're all jumping on the AI ship whether or not it makes sense to do so 🤷🏻♀️
Crazy how much credit people will give to text predictor++, even though it still doesn't have an understanding of what the problem you're asking it is. It's helpful, sure, but I don't think most people are losing their jobs to this just yet
Especially not people whose entire job is to think and reason about problems logically. If all you do at your day job is press buttons on a keyboard like Employee 427, then yeah LLMs can probably replace you, because you're not doing much more than they are
But if you have to think about a difficult problem, and you have to reason with the given conditions and constraints, you won't get very far with just prompting, because oftentimes your problem will be more complex than whatever it's been trained on
I also don't know how you can trust research from the company that's trying to sell you the product. Of course they're going to make it look good, they want to make money. That's how marketing works. It's like putting all your trust in the "9 out of 10 doctors" thing
That's the great thing about this tech. People will be able to test it independently and confirm or question what Open AI said about it.
Yeah I think the though job market is here since interest rates went up during or post COVID. No more access to free or cheap money really had a toll on companies’ budgets and hiring plans.
This has been what made the most sense to me too. It's definitely not just one factor but this makes sense to me.
I worked in a stocklisted HR tech company until a few months ago. The tough market for hiring services in the past few years was always correlated with inflation and recession, not AI. It has an influence ofc but most companies don’t use it for more than writing better emails.