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Replying to @cotton

Check developer threads on Reddit, Levels or HN, for example. Even many senior engineers with years of experience have found the market to be tough.

Jamie Sigadel
Replying to @outofelement @cotton

The tough job market isn't *just* because of AI.. For example, companies know they can get away with annual layoffs now. It's not a huge surprise that developers are on the chopping block along with everyone else. They're usually the most expensive people 🤷🏻‍♀️

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Replying to @jsiggy @cotton

Just came across this. I rest my case. salesforceben.com/salesforce-wil…

Salesforce Will Hire No More Software Engineers in 2025, Says Marc Benioff
Salesforce CEO Marc Benioff announces no new software engineer hires – see how AI is shaping the company's future.
Jamie Sigadel
Replying to @outofelement @cotton

I mean.. ok? What we were saying before still stands.. Especially when Salesforce has been laying people off for years. Their big thing at one point was NFTs. I don't think you understood what we were saying

Jamie Sigadel
Replying to @outofelement @cotton

Besides that.. I don't know why you're being so defensive on the behalf of big tech companies that do what they want regardless and don't need anyone defending them. Whatever their justification is, less tech jobs is.. not a good thing?

Replying to @jsiggy @cotton

Now I don't think you're understanding what I'm saying. I'm not defending big tech. That's how you're taking it. I'm looking at trends. I don't have emotional attachment to either side like you seem to.

Replying to @jsiggy @cotton

The only thing I'm saying is that it's very obvious to anyone who understands tech that AI has already made a lot of engineers redundant (average to below average for now) and it's improving extremely quickly. That's really all I'm saying. Not defending anyone.

Taurean Bryant Not Found
Replying to @outofelement @jsiggy @cotton

You are consistently wildly disrespectful and condescending. I don’t know why you choose to behave this way, but I would reflect on that.

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Replying to @taurean @jsiggy @cotton

Unlike most people on social media I actually go out of my way to state my opinions in the most neutral way possible without attacking anyone personally, even when I disagree, so the fact you think the opposite says more about how you choose to perceive what you read.

Replying to @taurean @jsiggy @cotton

So it's you who needs to seek the help of a mental health professional after self reflection. I'm fine, thank you. If you still think you're right why don't you point to a single example of your claims. Or rather multiple ones since you claim I do what you said consistently.

Replying to @cotton

Doesn't matter. o3 is a massive leap in reasoning skills. Very different from currently existing tools. People just like to convince themselves that reality they don't like isn't happening.

Replying to @cotton

There's a huge impact already on the developer market now, before o3. Just ask any developer who has been looking for a new job in the past year. They used to have it really sweet. Two weeks and a new job paying much more. Very different now.

Gregory Cotton
Replying to @outofelement

i’m not denying the capability of o3. simply saying that the total replacement of devs that people dream of/catastrophize about is a ways off yet. i also think that putting the lion’s share of blame for dev jobs drying up on ai is an incomplete picture of what’s happening.

Replying to @cotton

I think people just don't want to face the reality of where this is going. Even if o3 doesn't lead to full replacement of devs (and all knowledge workers, for that matter) it's only a matter of time. And not very much time.

Replying to @cotton

Governments will have to figure out a completely different way of managing society once we enter the post work era. And it's not as far off as most people think. Andrew Yang got laughed at by a lot of normies but that's what always happens to those who are a bit ahead.

Alex Dee
Replying to @cotton @outofelement
Replying to @alexdee @cotton

Lol, does it? I've heard good things but haven't used it myself and obviously not an engineer so don't have an opinion on it.