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Marat
Gregory Cotton
Replying to @outofelement

i feel like we’ve been ‘a few months away’ from ai replacing all devs and designers for like a year now

Jamie Sigadel
Replying to @outofelement @cotton

The tough job market isn't *just* because of AI.. For example, companies know they can get away with annual layoffs now. It's not a huge surprise that developers are on the chopping block along with everyone else. They're usually the most expensive people 🤷🏻‍♀️

Marat
Replying to @jsiggy @cotton

Didn't say it was the only factor but it's a really big factor. You wouldn't fire people you need. Even if they're expensive. The truth is that even things like Copilot have 10x developer productivity. This is according to my developer friends themselves.

Marat
Replying to @jsiggy @cotton

My point was that o3 is a whole new level of AI. With Copilot (which has already 10x'ed dev productivity) you still need to really know what you're doing. o3 will likely allow anyone who has a product idea create a product. No years of tech expertise necessary.

Gregory Cotton
Replying to @outofelement @jsiggy

i would agree it makes just starting to create a product more accessible but this is different than it’s ability to outright replace workers for a big tech company, for example.

Gregory Cotton
Replying to @outofelement @jsiggy

workers as in devs, in the above post^ this is from the perspective i have developed working on ai and automation tools in an engineering/tech lead role day to day, fwiw. these are tools that can disrupt no doubt, but the impact they currently have is often overstated imo.

Marat
Replying to @cotton @jsiggy

Currently, yes. As I said, Copilot helps an engineer be much more productive but you still need to have engineering skills and experience. o3 sounds like a completely different beast. We'll know more soon.

Gregory Cotton
Replying to @outofelement

i never said the job market wasn’t tough. i have incredibly qualified friends who have had to look for months upon months to find work. my point is that there’s a lot of existential doom around the job of the developer and i’m hesitant to buy into it at this current moment.